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173: The 4 Steps to Organizational Influence for Wellness Professionals with Jen Arnold

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Connecting and developing relationships with leaders is a common pain-point among wellness professionals. In today’s episode, podcast host Jen Arnold shares a webinar she presented on her 4 steps to organizational influence – a plan that takes the mystery out of building these successful relationships with business leaders who are in a position to invite you to the table.

Jen has over 20 years of experience leading and advising on organizational health and wellness efforts. She has interviewed more than 170 experts in the field of organizational health and has spoken many stages, including Tedx, WELCOA, and WCWI.

In today’s episode, Jen discusses some of the reasons she’s learned that wellness professionals are so interested in organizational influence, as well as her secret sauce to becoming a successful wellness professional.

She takes us through the 4 steps to organizational influence: buying into the business, choosing relationships over requests, integrating instead of separating, and raising your hand. 

Jen breaks down the goals of each step, explaining important strategies such as being a dot connector, presenting initiatives that reflect what’s important to the company, and finding collaborative opportunities with other departments that tie into wellness.

Finally, she shares a more in-depth look at the Redesigning Wellness Academy, a training designed to not only delve deeper into these steps, but also walk with you as you begin to try them out for yourself. As Jen says, “you’re probably not going to have a seat at the table, so find a way there.”

This episode is sponsored by KyndHub.

KyndHub is a social media platform designed to build your mental wellness. Currently sitting at over 50,000 users, the aim of KyndHub is to create a positive community between users and to gamify the idea of “kyndfulness.” 

Recently, it has been gaining a lot of traction in the field of employee wellness- companies have been seeing incredible impact in the areas of employee engagement, company culture, and employee wellbeing after implementing KyndHub into the workplace.

KyndHub also has an extension in which you guys can order “KyndKits”, which are volunteer projects in a box. KyndKits have also been proven to improve your mental wellness, and they make an incredible impact on the community at the same time. 100% of the proceeds from KyndKits go to fund mental health non-profit Project Helping.

For more information about KyndHub, you can reach them at or by phone at 303-551-0624.

Interview Highlights (with timestamps):
  • [10:54] Reasons Wellness Professionals are interested in Organizational Influence
  • [17:20] The secret sauce to becoming a successful wellness professional
  • [20:46] Step 1: Buy into the business
  • [33:00] Step 2: Choose relationships over requests
  • [43:42] Step 3: Integrate don’t separate
  • [49:57] Step 4: Raise your hand
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Jen Arnold is host of the Redesigning Wellness podcast where she interviews experts on the topic of organizational health. Jen’s on a mission to change the common approach to employee health and wellness. To support this mission, she facilitates employee training that addresses leadership, resilience and mindfulness.

For the 16 years prior to starting her own business, Jen led organizational health and wellness efforts and advised employers how to start them. Most recently, she worked at Blue Cross Blue Shield of NC for over 8 years leading a team of health promotion professionals.

Jen is a Tedx speaker who uses stories, activities and humor to not only make a point but to keep audiences engaged and listening. She lives in Raleigh, NC with her husband and two children.

Wellness Professionals

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