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139: Intrinsic Coaching with Gail Johnston, Owner of Progress Coaching & Consulting

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Many wellness solutions are set up to answer the question “how do we get people to change their health behaviors?”. According to today’s guest, Gail Johnston, asking how we create behavior change is entirely the wrong question to ask and behavior change is the wrong place to start.

Gail Johnston is a Certified Intrinsic Coach® (CIC®) and owner of Progress Coaching & Consulting,

An independent coaching company that provides professional coaching to the employees of school districts, businesses and government agencies. 

In this interview, Gail walks us through the principles of intrinsic coaching and differentiates it from other forms of coaching. She explains the fallacies of behavior change that we tend to rely on as wellness pros and walks us through the three domains of thinking within intrinsic coaching (I>E>S).

Gail drops some bombs on the common way we think about behavior change that can help us widen our own thinking…if we’re open to it!


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Interview highlights (with timestamps):
  • [6:10] The philosophy of intrinsic coaching.
  • [12:50] Common fallacies of behavior change.
  • [16:33] Gail’s statement that will shock wellness pros.
  • [19:30] How we overvalue education/information.
  • [23:47] The two aspects of behavior.
  • [26:10] Intrinsic > Extrinsic > Systemic
  • [37:22] Intrinsic motivation vs Intrinsic thinking
  • [49:30] Gail’s tangible tip
Mentioned in this episode:

Christina Marshall – creator of the Intrinsic Coaching

Gail’s email address:

Full Bio:

Gail Johnston is the owner of Progress Coaching & Consulting, an independent coaching company that has been in operation in Durango, CO, since 2003. The team of Progress Coaches provide professional coaching to the employees of school districts, businesses and government agencies. 

Progress Coaches are required to hold a Certified Intrinsic Coach® (CIC®), from Intrinsic Solutions, Intl., creator of the Intrinsic Coaching™ methodology.  Gail is a Certified Intrinsic Coach® (CIC®), Certified Valuations Specialist® (CVS®), and has more than 600 hours of coach training. 

In her role as a provider of coaching services, Gail also works closely with organizations to bring intrinsic valuing to the development of employee wellbeing programs with the goal of increasing intrinsic capacity and self-awareness that will produce better thinking and better outcomes for participants.


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