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107: Next Generation Wellness: From Theory to Practice with Rebecca Johnson & Jen Arnold

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This episode is all about our upcoming training in February to help wellness and HR professionals take small steps into the next generation of wellness. With the wellness industry evolving, Rebecca and I want to provide a safe and supportive environment where we provide actionable and applicable advice on how to have more impact in your role.

Listen in to hear Rebecca and I chat about how and why we came up with the idea for the training, why we are the right people to teach it and a bit more about the content and who’s a good fit.

Also, don’t miss out on an opportunity to participate in a small group training starting in October.

Here’s a bit more about it:

  • This will be a small group of up to 5 people.
  • We’ll meet weekly for 6 weeks online via Zoom. Tentative dates – October 24 to Dec. 5 (skipping Thanksgiving week). I say tentative because I want to see how many are in first to make sure the dates work.
  • Each week, I’ll present 15 minutes or so of content and then we’ll talk about how (and if) it would work in your organization.
  • Although I have topics in mind (other things that impact health, understanding your company, new metrics, key questions to ask, framework, etc.) I also want group members to tell me where they need help.
  • This will be informal and I’ll want a lot of group participation. I want it to feel like a supportive “tribe”.
  • If you’re looking for support in planning a more holistic approach in 2019, then this training is for you.

For those that sign up for my February training (more weeks and more formalized), this small group training is free. If you just want to do the standalone, then it’s $350. Just use this contact form if you only want the small group training.

The deadline to get in on the small group training is October 17th.

For full details on the 2019 training, visit


Biggest Takeaways You Don’t Want to Miss:
  • We’ll help you understand the small things you can do now to get the ball rolling into this next generation of wellness.
  • The two things Rebecca normally hears after she presents are “here are the specifics of my organization and I really need some guidance figuring out how to apply what you just said to my specific organization” and “where do I start because we are a long way from that?”.
  • We need to acknowledge that the traditional wellness model is an attractive one. It’s neat and tidy but unfortunately, doesn’t align with human nature.
  • Our upcoming training is to help people consider other options…not feel threatened or like they are doing a bad job.
  • After the training, we want participants to feel confident they can see the path to go down, clarity on how it applies to their organization (with first steps) and feel supported in their efforts.
Check out these highlights (with timestamps):
  • How Rebecca and I got the idea for the training [6:08]
  • The 1:1’s I had with wellness pros to validate the need for the training [11:33]
  • The importance of soft skills in the evolution of wellness [14:16]
  • What differentiates our training [15:45]
  • Really important change usually doesn’t happen in response to logic, data and facts [18:30]
  • A list of topics we’ll cover in our training [22:03]
  • One of the mistakes Rebecca made with trying to convince others of a Health at Every Size approach [26:54]
  • Our ideal people to take this training [32:10]
  • A shift in how I’ve thought about trainings since working for myself [41:23]
  • Our advice to wellness professionals who want to get started in the new paradigm [45:10]
Mentioned in this episode:

White paper mentioned

Jeff Tippett’s interview

Training details:

Rebecca’s 3 book recommendations:

Full Bio:

Rebecca Johnson is a leader in the wellbeing industry with more than 20 years of diverse experience in coaching, education, consulting, speaking, program management, and business development. She has been influential in shifting the corporate wellness paradigm away from the conventional outside-in, “wellness or else” model towards a more holistic, inside-out approach.  Rebecca currently serves as the Director of Wellness Services for Corporate Fitness Works, where she oversees the implementation of a new paradigm model that fuses the best of employee wellbeing and cultural transformation.

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